Part 5
canadasuxs - 3 years ago
2000 deg with not pressure on it.: The steel in the building had thousands of pounds of pressure on it. As temperatures increase the amount of pressure it can handle decreases. Example: An ANSI class 2500 Carbon Steel pipe can handle 6170 PSI @ 100 deg F. At 838 deg F it can only handle 2500 PSI.
Uzabuza - 4 years ago
.: it didn't melt at 2000. notice he says in the letter it "weakened" at 2000. Steel loses %50 of it's integrity at just under 2000 degrees F. And at %50 of it's original strength that building was coming down
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thomas_c_63 - 2 years ago
liar: "i am not calling anyone a liar, i am calling you a liar" amazing. lol
hbykyngen - 4 years ago
@thomas_c_63hahaha: takes the prize
ChaunceyGrizzly - 2 years ago
REMEMBER AMERICA!: Trust no one! Don't trust your media, or "The Media." Don't trust Scientists. Trust no one. Except for Loose Change and Zeitgeistmovie.com. You can trust them. But, NO ONE ELSE!
Mabans - 2 years ago
Well..: Speculates! Guess.. Also when Cory Lidle crashed in NY witnesses thought it was initially a helicopter. Not to mention new organizations doing just bad reporting.
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Stu_Padaso - 2 years ago
HAA! if theres no cospirisee how come i can be 2 places: at once? Here & in the video so THERE! that proves that water testers certify steal & dylan says he is not fibbin much so we beleeves heim! Lier!
@Stu_Padasoomg!: AMG! He's right, i'm a LIAR!
chuckwow - 2 years ago
america under attack: america is under attack by its own government... the only people who don't seem to know this are americans, who have been taught to be 'patriotic' and listen to whatever their government says
timmahhh - 2 years ago
Conspiracies are born: from way too much time and masturbation. Did anyone stop to think for a minute that the mutherfucking plane slamming into the building at 650 mph might have taken out a large portion of that steel that "doesnt melt under 3000 degrees".
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morningstoner420 - 2 years ago
can't you peolpe...: SPELL !!!!!!!!!
uppercutter - 2 years ago
@morningstoner420yeah: damn you peolpe!
Phiber - 2 years ago
@morningstoner420God I hope that "peolpe" was part of a "joek": Other wise I think you may be the "dummerest pesron" in the world.
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Shazam63 - 2 years ago
Maybe the big whole: in the wall cause the building on the wall to collapse. And maybe that all the main supports were on the outside, and the very middle, not distributed evenly through out the buidling like most buildings. These kids are IDIOTS
@Shazam63i read your comment 3 times: and i still have no idea what your talking about. the truth isn't out there people. its hidden and we have to find it.
Atomchild - 2 years ago
@Shazam63you haven't done your research, Shazam63.: The Center of the buildings were the strong point comprised of 47 columns of steel that were 18in by 36in in size.
negativekelvin - 4 years ago
@Shazam63Regardless of where the support was: how is a plane slamming into the top portion of a building, weakening the steel only in that location, make the entire building fall. Wouldnt it just flop over in the weak section? You are the idiot. go eat another Bigmac and watch tv
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SilvuR - 2 years ago
Wtf...: "I am not calling anybody a lier sir. I'm calling you a lier, because you are a lier."
@SilvuRits liar: you uneducated retard
fullauto223cal - 2 years ago
What??: Gappy: "I'm not calling anyone a lier! I'm calling you a lier!" Ugh?
pm-4 lc-0: sorry dylan, you shouldn't have a water tester as a steel expert....duh
Shoxt3r - 2 years ago
Two things that annoy me....: Amy Goodman - open your fricking mouth when you talk!!! And the other is the Loose Change Researcher needs to sort his eyes out...there is no way that they should be popping out that much.
cruz101 - 2 years ago
:: One of the teenagers gets shut up when the editor says that the laboratory the teen is talking about doesnt expirement with metal around 5:40 you have got to just check it out its halerious!
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Blackbearbreak - 2 years ago
Mr Capulinflicker: Ok, with your analogy. If the spaghetti is warmed up it bends? Ok. All of it would have to be warmed for it to all bend/collapse. Otherwise you'll just have a mushy top. If you do it at the bottom then it will collapse but there wasn't a plane hitting the bottom, was there?
capulinflicker - 2 years ago
@Blackbearbreak???: I don't even understand what you're saying.
@BlackbearbreakI'll make the analogy simpler.: Your analogy doesn't work? Why? Only a very small fraction of the steal beams (your analogy is spaghetti strands). So only the top of the spaghetti would be soft/mushy from the warm water. Look at your analogy then read this.
inidle - 2 years ago
@Blackbearbreakhe is saying: that all of the steel would have to be warm for the whole structure to bend like that
@BlackbearbreakThere is also the problem that: the fire was not hot enough to even "soften" steel. All the jetfuel burned off in minutes in not seconds. Proof, you say? Black smoke. Lots of it. Oxygen starved fire. Melting steel with it would be like cooking a hotdog over a glowing ember.
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Here's the real deal...: Hyman Brown is my construction professor where I'm completing a degree in civil engineering. What he says is completely true, we analyzed the structure of the WTC towers and everything checks out. Fireproofing lasts only for about two hours, which it did during 911. However once fireproofing fails and steel is exposed to intense heat, it starts to lose its strength. Think of a large bunch of dry spaghetti stands. You break one strand, the bunch is still strong. You break 2 st
@capulinflicker...: You break 2 strands and the bunch is still strong. You can even break up to 50% of the bunch, and it will still stand. Now, put that bunch into a pot of warm water and what happens? The spaghetti softens and the bunch fails. Its the exact same thing with the structure steal of the WTC.
@capulinflicker...: The towers were designed with an exterior web of structural steel, it was designed this way so as to limit the number of interior columns and thus increase the floor space. this design also prevented the towers from leaning and swaying. This is the same reason why the towers didn't topple over when they collapsed but rather fell down on top of themselves. When the inner columns failed, the floor decks started to collapse down on top of one another. It was basically a snowball effect where the lower
@capulinflickerWow! Great explanation,: I ve heard this from other sources too. Where was it... oh yeah! The White house press sheet. *pats capulinflicker on head* "Good american, have a treat"
nickc31 - 2 years ago
Wait, what?: So the US Gov't has 1) the organizational skills to pull off a precise and large-scale surprise attack on American soil; 2) the power and money to supress and cover up the "conspiracy"; and 3) no moral qualms about killing thousands of innocent Americans. BUT, it does NOT have the power, organizational skill or gumption to stop a couple of dudes from making & publicizing a movie exposing "the truth"????
Cjorge_ - 2 years ago
I CAN'T: understand how you americans believe the BS that you are told by your countries leader... GG Propaganda.
SpiritInAgrave - 2 years ago
I like how: in the video, the stupid kid even states that the guy writing the letter was opposed by more people than supported ~.~
evox786 - 2 years ago
huh?: "I'm not calling anyone a liar sir. I'm calling you a liar, because you are." That'll about do it for me.
kasalisk - 2 years ago
nice jams: makes me wanna boogie-out
jack11123 - 2 years ago
well: these guys do have a very good argument. It seems impossible when the evidence adds up that a a plane could have cause this. Another thing is that (i know very little about this) could or would a bomb explode these massive layers of pure steel and marble. I think if the kids could verbalize their already strong arguements to a point where they are actually taken seriosuly by people like this break administartor, then more and more peolpe might start to debate a controversy.
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ShoTym - 2 years ago
Other fires: Other buildings have burned longer and hotter and not collapsed. If anything, the buildings inner cores should have remained. Direct quote from fire fighter is that there were two small pockets of fire that could be put out w/ 2 lines. And those two small pockets brought the towers down??
MyMonie - 2 years ago
@ShoTymSo,: 1 mysterious quote about only 2 small fires is proof there were only 2 small fires? Yea, i'm sure they got an accurate assessment in 2 minutes for the thing colasped. Talk about cherry picking the "facts". Your talking about a signle transcripts via firefigther walkietalkies and the 2 small fires is now fact?
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www5555 - 2 years ago
haha that was funny, im not calling anyone a liar sir, im calling you a liar: man I beleive in the LC conspiracy, but these kids are bad at defending it, i could do a better job
@www5555Talk Talk Talk,.....: Can the editors give us more than just talk?? Show me the money and stop with the talk. These kids are naming names, using numbers. The adults are just talking. Kids win
@www5555LOL: i seriously laughed out loud when he said that, he's dumb
